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I recently acquired a flintlock Kentucky Rifle, and I would like help determining the age and authenticity. There are no markings on the barrel that I can see. The barrel is 39.75 inches long from breach to muzzle. The tang is 2.5 inches long and about 7/16 wide. It terminates with a simple, triangular like point and has one screw holding it down to the stock. The inside of the barrel looks like a 6 sided polygon (not round). Closer inspection reveals that there are rifling grooves cut in the barrel which make each of the points. It is about .32 caliber. The front site is a blade style and is made of brass. It is set in a dovetail groove and has 4 "stake marks" to presumably keep it tightly in place. The rear site is a very simple "V" groove, and it is placed in a dove tail groove on the top of the barrel. The rear site is steel. The stock is full length. It is Tiger Maple wood and the finish is nice - probably too nice for original age. There are no carvings in the wood stock. There is a brass, Roman style nose at the muzzle end. It is about 2.5 inches long. It is formed sheet brass which slides over the end of the wood stock. It is not a solid brass nose. There is a 2 piece brass patch box. There appears to be a catch of some type attached to the lid of the patch box, but there is no mechanism to open or close the patch box. It appears no mechanism was ever installed (no holes in the wood), or it used some type of spring to hold it closed that I have not seen on other Kentucky Rifles. Also, the 2 piece patch box may be supposed to be a 4 piece box and someone left off the 2 side pieces? There is no engraving on the patch box. There is no "washer plate" on the left side of the stock where the bolts go to mount the lock. The bolts simply go through the stock without any washers to prevent pull through of the wood. There is a brass name plate on the forearm of the stock. It is engraved in old style script and it reads "Jos. Laszlo" I have found nothing on the Internet about this guy. It has a set trigger and a final trigger. The trigger mechanism looks very old and original to the barrel. The lock mechanism is in pretty nice shape, but I suspect it is also old and original. The carvings and markings are easily visible. The rear of the lock plate is rounded - no point on the butt end like i have seen in pictures of other locks. A marking on the lock plate at the edge of the frizzen spring reads "London Warranted." The hammer has a vertical Oval cutout in it which shows the end of the flint bolt. The frizzen and spring do not have the "new and improved" roller to reduce wear. It is old style. The trigger guard is brass and it has a hole and screw to secure it at the butt end. There is also a hole at the muzzle end of the trigger guard, but it is unused (a screw would interfere with the end of the ramrod). A pin is used to secure it at the muzzle end. The barrel is secured to the wood stock by small, round, steel pins. I know you will likely need pictures to help age and identify this thing. I can send them if you let me know how. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!


It is impossible to determine much about your rifle without pictures, as you suggested. You can mail a series of photos to me at PO Box 97, Slatington PA 18080. I will be glad to help if I can see a series of pictures of each side of your rifle. Include your phone number if possible in case I have questions.

Submitted By: Keith Sermersheim On: 2/28/2020 6:01:23 PM

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